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13 Mar 2017 17:58 #5466 by porsche91722
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Still couldn't work out which way Richard was leaning with this, and seeing Longhurst's comments this afternoon, you gotta wonder about all this and where they want the sport to be, here in Australia.
Fair dinkum.......VASC is battling to distance itself from it's already BOGAN image. I realize they haven't made any comments over this yet, however do we really want our major motorsport category going down the path of an Aussie version of NASCAR, and what sort of message does it project to the fans that they are trying to attract? They have sort of, got a reasonably squeaky clean image, at the moment here in Australia. Giving this stupidity any oxygen will only be a backward step for VASC.

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14 Mar 2017 08:07 #5484 by Richo
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When I see a punch up in Nascar I think 'the good old boys are at it again'. That's Nascar for you, there's certainly a few hot heads in that field not to say that there isn't in the Supercar field. In my eyes it fits in Nascar maybe because there's a lot of history of it happening. I wouldn't encourage the same in Supercars but that said incidents like Shriek at the Creeek with Ingall and Skaife was just spur of the moment passion and anger. You can't script that, nobody saw that coming. That image of Skaife shaking his fist in rage at Ingall as he went past again will not be forgetten for some time. But I wouldn't want to see it more often just to increase my interest in the sport-if you need that to boost ratings and column inches (or millimetres here in Australia) then you have to look at the core product and think of whats missing that doesn't get peoples attention in the first place. That's the real problem

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14 Mar 2017 08:33 - 14 Mar 2017 08:34 #5487 by Axeman444
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maverick wrote: If they bring back the biff, Nick Percat better look out.

Nick Percat is the Joey Logano of Australian racing...
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14 Mar 2017 13:02 #5493 by mayhem
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maverick wrote: As far as the individual you are alluding to Axe, I see he's as popular as ever, continues to ruin the place and deserves everything he gets and to think that he predicted the downfall of Australian GT 3-4 years ago ;)


Yes, I believe the Big Bash only has a couple more years left before it dies off according to that bloke. If he stuck to predicting the demise of V8 street races he'd be flying right now...

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14 Mar 2017 13:15 #5495 by maverick
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Don't think that the V8 bosses would have the same attitude.


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14 Mar 2017 15:20 #5501 by James3592
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Personally I'm fine with a bit of finger-pointing or fist shaking (Murphy/Ambrose and Skaife/Ingall spring to mind here) but when punches get thrown that's crossing the line for me. It's motorsport not the UFC or Drugby/Thugby League.

One of the best things about motorsport is the clean image of the drivers. We never see any driver in trouble for domestic abuse, drugs, stealing from charities or simply being a complete idiot. If I were a parent and my kids wanted to start following sport I know what sport I'd try and steer them towards...

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15 Mar 2017 18:35 - 15 Mar 2017 18:37 #5520 by maverick
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15 Mar 2017 23:54 #5529 by James3592
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Unfortunately Newcastle has the most vocal NIMBY's in Aus.

It's been very frustrating and upsetting for me as a lifelong motorsport supporter hearing some of the pathetic and degrading comments and arguments that they have been putting forward. There's only about 150 (at most) of them but the amount of noise they've made, you'd think there were thousands.

Despite this however 99.9% of Newcastle can't wait for November 24/25/26.

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16 Mar 2017 21:34 #5550 by Nardulas
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James3592 wrote: Unfortunately Newcastle has the most vocal NIMBY's in Aus.

It's been very frustrating and upsetting for me as a lifelong motorsport supporter hearing some of the pathetic and degrading comments and arguments that they have been putting forward. There's only about 150 (at most) of them but the amount of noise they've made, you'd think there were thousands.

Despite this however 99.9% of Newcastle can't wait for November 24/25/26.


I hear the vocal minority also resorted to violence on this topic as well. I'm keen for Newcastle, it'll be the closest race to me (Coffs Harbour). It'll depend on ticket prices as to whether I actually attend or not

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17 Mar 2017 12:06 - 17 Mar 2017 12:09 #5557 by StueyB83
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James3592 wrote: Unfortunately Newcastle has the most vocal NIMBY's in Aus.

It's been very frustrating and upsetting for me as a lifelong motorsport supporter hearing some of the pathetic and degrading comments and arguments that they have been putting forward. There's only about 150 (at most) of them but the amount of noise they've made, you'd think there were thousands.

Despite this however 99.9% of Newcastle can't wait for November 24/25/26.


My own opinion is that it's pathetic that it's another street race - and another waste of money. Newcastle would have benefited a substantial deal more if they built a well designed, permanent circuit on the outskirts of town - probably even between Gosford/Newy to capture both markets.

Your going to have to get a civil contractor to grade new sections, lay down new road and then tear up and re-tarmac existing roads - and re-tarmac the circuit more frequently from the damage caused by regular traffic use such as trucks out of race weekends.

Your going to have to pay a seven figure fee for a consultant to come and assess the final layout, and make a shit load alterations to the road configuration and design specialised traffic furniture, then have a subbie build said furniture, and change it over every year.

Not to mention paying a contractor come and install then remove all of the concrete walls.

And contractors for building removable grandstands, and access ways etc. On a permanent circuit you get a civil contractor to knock up some berms the one time and your set.

Do that again each and every year for ONE event - the accumulative costs all add up to a point where you can look at the money spent and say - why didn't we just build a permanent circuit with the money? An asset that will still be around long after the promoter pulls the race when it goes into decline?

You could use it all year around to make money - as well as benefit from improvements in road safety for training programs... I could go on.

Not against a race in Newcastle, but once again the powers that be go for "glitz and glam" (Do they have that in Newcastle?) rather than practical functionality and something that the public could also use.

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17 Mar 2017 23:28 #5573 by James3592
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There have been plans for a permanent track on the outskirts of Newcastle (the Raymond Terrace area) but every time they're put forward, the usual group of NIMBY's shut it down.

I appreciate that street races aren't everyone's cup of tea but look at Adelaide and Townsville. I wouldn't call them bad events. Let's give it a year or two and see how it goes first before we start beating up on Newy.

I would rather have a street race than no race at all.

And Stuey in answer to your question: No. We have absolutely no glitz and glam here ;) :lol:

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18 Mar 2017 08:01 #5575 by porsche91722
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“We’ve spoken to Roland (Dane, team owner) and said that we’d like to talk about it, because at this point we haven’t started any negotiations,” Lowndes told Supercars.com.

“We still don’t know what his plans are going forward, whether it’s to run three cars, expand to four, go back to two…

“I’d like to sign up for another two years, if not three, but we need to know what Roland’s plans are first.

“He is putting his ducks in a row and then we’ll see where we are.”

What's with this "We've" bullshit, Craig? Do you go everywhere with your posse of minders, hangers on and management team in tow? :silly:
Pedantic, on my part.....perhaps :)

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24 Mar 2017 14:40 - 24 Mar 2017 14:44 #5717 by maverick
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Nick Percat has had a major brake failure doing about 230kph in race 1. He's thrown his car sideways as soon as he could but unfortunately taken out Lee Holdsworth in the process.
Both drivers are okay, but Percat's car isn't.

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24 Mar 2017 16:18 #5721 by maverick
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maverick wrote: Nick Percat has had a major brake failure doing about 230kph in race 1. He's thrown his car sideways as soon as he could but unfortunately taken out Lee Holdsworth in the process.
Both drivers are okay, but Percat's car isn't.


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24 Mar 2017 18:36 #5722 by Nardulas
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Hatchback Holden... Would it be inappropriate to make reference to the car's sexual equality message, and it taking a bit hit to the rear? ;)
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24 Mar 2017 18:44 - 24 Mar 2017 19:43 #5723 by maverick
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Hatchback Holden... Would it be inappropriate to make reference to the car's sexual equality message, and it taking a bit hit to the rear? ;)

Looking through social media, you've been beaten to it by thousands already. One particular mental giant thought that he was so funny that he posted the same comment in 3 different places.
As far as the racing, I just can't get into it being a non Championship round.

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24 Mar 2017 20:30 #5725 by Nardulas
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Hatchback Holden... Would it be inappropriate to make reference to the car's sexual equality message, and it taking a bit hit to the rear? ;)

Looking through social media, you've been beaten to it by thousands already. One particular mental giant thought that he was so funny that he posted the same comment in 3 different places.
As far as the racing, I just can't get into it being a non Championship round.


I can't believe how little interest I have in the F1 support categories (aside from Aus GT) this year. Lack of coverage certainly isn't helping

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07 Apr 2017 08:45 #6023 by Nardulas
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Tasmania this weekend, always turns on some good racing. I'm keen to see if DJR/Penske can keep taking the fight to Red Bull consistently this season

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08 Apr 2017 07:56 #6056 by maverick
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I always look forward to the SP round.
Don't think there's a track where qualifying is as important as here and with a lap being so short, it can be tough getting a clean hot lap.

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08 Apr 2017 16:52 - 08 Apr 2017 16:53 #6070 by maverick
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Red flag on the second lap due to a incident involving about 12 cars.

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