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12 May 2017 13:31 #6760 by velly4
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velly4 wrote: No GTR is Supercars. Sorry if this has already been posted

www.themotorreport.com.au/65083/nissan-p...-in-supercars-series


Pulsar? That makes as much sense as the Altima did. I can't see Nissan continuing on past next year to be honest. With the amount of money invested and the results thus far its not a great ROI.


I think they would be a real force with the GTR engine. They'd be crazy to continue running the current engine.
The V6 turbos are going to destroy the V8

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12 May 2017 14:33 #6761 by maverick
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17 May 2017 14:44 #6845 by maverick
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19 May 2017 09:28 #6903 by CP
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It's quite interesting to see that SEL are interested in it again. Maybe they're hoping for their own Packer/Bond moment?

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19 May 2017 16:20 #6909 by James3592
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The weather could make this weekend very interesting...

Wouldn't mind seeing some wet'n wild action.

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19 May 2017 21:35 #6913 by JuddaGT3
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James3592 wrote: The weather could make this weekend very interesting...

Wouldn't mind seeing some wet'n wild action.


Theres wet'n wild and then there's ridin' the rapids. Haven't seen anything like that for a long time. Be interesting tomorrow if there is any dry conditions to see where everyone truely is.

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20 May 2017 08:51 #6915 by Nardulas
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Good to see the wildcard entries doing alright this weekend as well. I'm a big fan of James Golding, I think if he could find more consistency in his driving he will be excellent in the future

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20 May 2017 21:45 #6921 by CP
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While I didn't find any of the Barbagallo races at all immersive and where nothing stood out, race 1 at Winton was quite good.

The battle between Nick and JC was pure gold, and seeing the JC of old (as in bump into everything) wasn't a bad thing.

That was always going to end that way, it was just a matter of who would end up in the sandtrap.

Tomorrow with those two will be good.

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20 May 2017 21:59 #6922 by MatCoch
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JC fired up on TV apparently. I didn't see it but have read some of the quotes.

Dave Reynolds had a good race, Tander too.

James Golding was impressive; his first race in 2017 in anything, and he beat some regulars. Good job James.

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20 May 2017 22:18 #6923 by Ryan Lee
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Yeah decent racing from the usually interesting Winton.

Strategy playing a big part as per, but yes, a few good drives through the field, Reynolds, Lowndes, and JC with the wild cards doing well too.

Good to see that whilst DJRTP have the speed, they weren't running away with it. Had Chaz not had his issue and SVG didn't get held up it would have been a great battle up the front!

I didn't think there was much in the Courtney vs Percat incident. Both equally to blame. His comments after were definitely that of a deflated bloke, he never made a hard accusation at Percat, probably knew there wasn't much in it. In the end, he qualified 23rd which isn't good enough. Got caught up and spun on lap 1 but managed to get him back to that kind of position so the car had something going for it. There is a glimmer of light if anything.

I actually feel for Percat, great qualy, then a great start. Would have been good to see what could have happened if he didn't get his issue throughout the race.

***Disclaimer - I know that it's racing so what didn't happen didn't and what did happen did.

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21 May 2017 20:39 #6939 by James3592
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How good is the championship battle at the moment? Just 37 points in it. Regardless of who you go for, it's great for the sport.

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21 May 2017 20:48 - 21 May 2017 20:51 #6940 by maverick
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James3592 wrote: How good is the championship battle at the moment? Just 37 points in it. Regardless of who you go for, it's great for the sport.

Definitely bodes well for the run to the line.
It's going to be very interesting if and when team mates are vying for the Championship going into the last 2-3 rounds which will add some spice.
It would be pretty exciting having the current top 4 in the Championship battling it out come seasons end.
Unfortunately for me personally, the "enduro's" are going to play a major role in the season where a co-driver can make or break a drivers Championship aspirations which is ridiculous, plus Bathurst should be a non Championship points round IMO.

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22 May 2017 00:15 #6941 by Nardulas
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James3592 wrote: How good is the championship battle at the moment? Just 37 points in it. Regardless of who you go for, it's great for the sport.

Definitely bodes well for the run to the line.
It's going to be very interesting if and when team mates are vying for the Championship going into the last 2-3 rounds which will add some spice.
It would be pretty exciting having the current top 4 in the Championship battling it out come seasons end.
Unfortunately for me personally, the "enduro's" are going to play a major role in the season where a co-driver can make or break a drivers Championship aspirations which is ridiculous, plus Bathurst should be a non Championship points round IMO.


I would like to see the Endurance Cup be a standalone season within a season style event. Allow teammates to join forces, let the teams try different combinations, etc. I want to see drivers give 100% at the mountain, I don't want to see anything left behind because they were trying to bank championship points

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22 May 2017 07:02 - 22 May 2017 07:04 #6943 by maverick
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maverick wrote:

James3592 wrote: How good is the championship battle at the moment? Just 37 points in it. Regardless of who you go for, it's great for the sport.

Definitely bodes well for the run to the line.
It's going to be very interesting if and when team mates are vying for the Championship going into the last 2-3 rounds which will add some spice.
It would be pretty exciting having the current top 4 in the Championship battling it out come seasons end.
Unfortunately for me personally, the "enduro's" are going to play a major role in the season where a co-driver can make or break a drivers Championship aspirations which is ridiculous, plus Bathurst should be a non Championship points round IMO.


I would like to see the Endurance Cup be a standalone season within a season style event. Allow teammates to join forces, let the teams try different combinations, etc. I want to see drivers give 100% at the mountain, I don't want to see anything left behind because they were trying to bank championship points

Don't think there would be enough competitive cars if you joined the team mates up.
Really is set up nicely seeing that no one has bolted into the distance, there are 2 lots of team mates involved and it's Holden v Ford for the old heads.

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22 May 2017 12:58 #6949 by Nardulas
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Nardulas wrote:

maverick wrote:

James3592 wrote: How good is the championship battle at the moment? Just 37 points in it. Regardless of who you go for, it's great for the sport.

Definitely bodes well for the run to the line.
It's going to be very interesting if and when team mates are vying for the Championship going into the last 2-3 rounds which will add some spice.
It would be pretty exciting having the current top 4 in the Championship battling it out come seasons end.
Unfortunately for me personally, the "enduro's" are going to play a major role in the season where a co-driver can make or break a drivers Championship aspirations which is ridiculous, plus Bathurst should be a non Championship points round IMO.


I would like to see the Endurance Cup be a standalone season within a season style event. Allow teammates to join forces, let the teams try different combinations, etc. I want to see drivers give 100% at the mountain, I don't want to see anything left behind because they were trying to bank championship points

Don't think there would be enough competitive cars if you joined the team mates up.
Really is set up nicely seeing that no one has bolted into the distance, there are 2 lots of team mates involved and it's Holden v Ford for the old heads.


Perhaps, but who wouldn't want to see Whincup/SVG sharing a car, which would allow Red Bull to use their second car to give young talent a go? Or keep the drivers separated and play the game of who can afford the most experienced co driver. I think teams should be allowed to choose, and pair up main series drivers if they want

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22 May 2017 19:49 #6964 by Ryan Lee
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I think with the current crop of co-drivers around, we aren't lacking anything. Sure you could have a field with any driver pairings but that would essentially make it a race of two classes, no car with a non FT team will keep up with a main team.

It's in the best interest of the fans doing it this way. Think of how many races were lost for main teams (first thing that comes to mind is Skaife in the wall up mountain straight awhile back) because of the rule, subsequently making the race a touch less exciting because there goes another contender.

Having to split the FT drivers up means there is theoretically twice as many people who could win. I'm totally fine with that.

Besides, even if you could pair up the drivers, RBHRT would still split SVG and Jdub and still be in the running for a 1-2 lol.

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23 May 2017 16:22 #6975 by Kytabu
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Ryan Lee wrote: I think with the current crop of co-drivers around, we aren't lacking anything. Sure you could have a field with any driver pairings but that would essentially make it a race of two classes, no car with a non FT team will keep up with a main team..

Wasn't always the case...Besnard/Ritter for GRM in 2009, Simonsen/Lyons for 888 in 2007, Richo/Longhurst in 2003, just to name a few. Part of the appeal for me was seeing if any of the part-time combinations could take it to the regular runners and score a surprise podium or top five.

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24 May 2017 00:03 #6984 by RedZedMikey
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I'm fine with the situation as it is now. If the full time drivers were paired up, then the team-mates can't make or lose ground relative to each other, their points differential would be the same regardless of good result or bad. If the top 4 is still the same come the enduros, there will be a battle between those 4 cars instead of just 2.

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24 May 2017 14:48 #6997 by Nardulas
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Teams wouldn't have to pair drivers, I think someone like Red Bull would still consider keeping them in separate cars. But for a team like GRM, where young talent has always had a chance to catch their big break, if they put Tander & Moffat together, the second car could be used for young drivers without risking championship points for a full time driver.

I just think teams should be allowed to choose, give them the option. As it stands, teams are just trying to find the most experienced non full time driver, and young blokes are having to either do it as a wildcard entry or wait until they're a bit older. Remember when Lowndes stepped from Formula Ford into the Bathurst 1000? Or a young Junior Johnson back in '93?

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25 May 2017 12:54 #7032 by CP
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One thing I've enjoyed so far this year (yet there is still time to do it), is the lack of Danicamania type hype around Simona.

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